foreign theology with two very brilliant men thank you guys so much Dr Joel mudumale and Jim Cress licensed professional counselor I want to talk about a topic that is complicated and yet is affecting women a lot and it doesn’t just affect women obviously I want to say it affects young people that are not grown up it affects men um but for the purpose of our conversation tucked within this series specifically focusing on women I want to talk about emotional abuse and the reason that this is so complicated is and there I’m sure there are lots of

reasons it’s so complicated but when I hear women talking about emotional abuse I either hear it one extreme that they call almost everything emotional abuse anything hard challenging difficult um even like a corrective criticism or whatever like it swung so far over that they’re calling everything emotional abuse or more commonly what I’m hearing is they call very little emotional abuse because they’re nervous to even use that word abuse it sounds so big and so definitive makes it real too in their mind if I say that oh my word

and yet it’s affecting a lot of people so instead of trying to break apart is this emotional abuse is this not emotional abuse I want to just talk about today a spectrum from a difficult relationship all the way to a destructive relationship I want to recognize where a difficult relationship turns into a destructive relationship that has so many nuances we can’t possibly pinpoint it and yet we can identify that there sometimes is a place where a difficult relationship slips into a destructive relationship and we can’t

name that place just like we said on our pornography episode that we did that we are going to be descriptive today not prescriptive in other words we’re going to talk about this issue but we’re not trying to prescribe that you or someone you love has this issue so another spectrum that I want us to think about is not just difficult to destructive in the context of emotional abuse where does it slip from being just a hard conversation that you have over to emotional abuse another Specter I want to talk about is the spectrum of