Letting Go, Leaning In, and Leading Well

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• So, be sure to tag us when you share. Now, you’re going to love today’s show with my dear friend Holly Wagner. She’s a global speaker, has authored 10 books, and is co-founder of the Oasis Church in Los Angeles. Let’s dive in today. I know you’re going to love this conversation. All right, my friend.
• I have been busting to do this because we have known each other for like three decades. Three decades. A lot of life. A lot of life. And I thought, okay, people are just going to um dive in and this is life and leadership. So, of course, there will be leadership threaded through, but the the strength of this is um just our relational connection.
• And okay, we were just talking and I made you stop because you’re going Chris, I have been married four decades to the same man. To the same man. Like four decad like 40 years in a row, right? I’m just I want people to hear this because you know this is a sign and a wonder in the 21st century. Yes, it is. It’s a sign and a wonder to me by the way. Okay.
• And why I stopped you is because I want you to tell everyone what you Well, I don’t know how much Philip had to do with this, but what you’ve decided you’re going to do for your 40th anniversary. I listen, I think 40 years uh is a big deal. And honestly, every wedding anniversary is a big deal because to have a birthday, you just have to keep breathing, which some years that’s harder than others. Fair enough.
• But to have an anniversary, you did a lot of work to get to that anniversary. I’ve never thought about that. So, I think there should be a lot more partying happening on an anniversary. That’s awesome. This year, 40 years. So, uh, we went to Lake Tahoe on our honeymoon a lot of years ago. 40 years ago. And so, I decided, let’s start there.
• So, we started in Lake Tahoe and went skiing and saw the lake and 40 years later, here we were just celebrating again and reminiscing and all of that. And then I did tell Philip that this is going to be a year-long celebration and there’ll be some other trips involved. But why not make it a year? That is awesome. Yeah. How Okay.
• I just I’m going to because I want people to hear. They’ll go, okay, 40 years ago, what is it that attracted you to him? And if you had to sort of say big picture, what’s kept you in it for 40 years? Um, good questions. Uh, I think what attracted me to him all those years ago, he made me laugh. Wow.
• And, um, he was a good kisser, so that was important. But he did make me laugh. And I think that’s been one of the things, honestly, that has kept us together. And there were seasons when he was not making me laugh, when he was being incredibly irritating. And um, so you do have those seasons. But I think funny. You never were to him, though. No. Listen. Hello. You’re my friend. So, I know that. I know that.
• Hello. I’m just saying that any problems we had were all him. All not true. Absolutely not true. Um, and then 40. So, I think um some of the things that kept us together honestly was our our commitment to Jesus. It just is. There comes a time when I love God more than I love him. And so, I just powerful.
• I’m staying committed to you during this really hard season. And again, there were hard seasons because I’m committed to him and uh and then you get through that season and I’m glad I didn’t walk away and because I could have or would have or whatever when all the feelings were when it was hard. So, I think just having a commitment um to Jesus that’s genuine.