I I was in a session with Jim and he said you know do you want to heal and I said yes like do you want to get better do you want to move forward I know that’s a Jesus question right now they want to be well a man of the pool of Bethesda woman at the well first all I got to be like why would you ask such a dumb question it’s like I never assume that yeah and it do and Jim said well day for us to work on forgiveness and I was like are you high like seriously hi I just told you that I wanted to heal I did not say I wanted to

forgive and you helped me connect those two together and so I finally became convinced okay I I I’ll I’ll Trust the process just a little bit and so you said well let’s not start with forgiveness let’s start with the hurt that is that’s happened to you and you’re very gracious and and you handed me a stack of three by five cards and you said just write out what’s happened Lisa try it out each thing that has hurt you and so I thought that I can do so I started writing one thing on each card and I was laying them down on the floor

and there was a lot of hurt inside of me I saw it a lot and so I laid down and before I knew it it’s like the carpet was really filled with all of these cards and as I took a step back when I thought of the last thing and I just put that last card down I remember thinking no wonder I feel so heavy inside no wonder I feel so confused because this is a lot to sort out and so after that was probably a big deal I know you you both know this but to do them more experientially to write the cards out laying them that long kind of path in my

they weren’t just scattered they were in a path in my office for you to see them and go whoa that’s as a step to go there’s a lot here versus if you just narrated and told me but to show me anything you can tell me you can show me that’s kind of the thought mind yeah like wow look at that and you know it was so profound as I was standing there looking at all of this hurt written out on on these cards and you were standing there with me something very profound happened you looked at me and you said Lisa I believe you

and I could cry right now thinking of that moment because what I really needed and I think what was really holding me back from forgiveness it wasn’t so much that I needed the other person to acknowledge what they’ve done to me I needed another human to look at the hurt and acknowledge with me what I’ve been through just another human to Bear witness to this happened and this was awful and I needed that moment and so when Jim said he believed me it was just I can’t even describe what it did to me but it was very profound and you know in