Why Presence Matters More Than Platform and Performance

• You can’t just be dependent to be a minister. You have to be dependent to be a mom, too. Hi friends, I’m Christine Kane and you’re listening to the Life and Leadership Podcast where we share conversations with faithfilled leaders from all over the globe. God, I have so much to be thankful for.
• And even in the midst of my suffering, you are present. I feel like the next generation are rising and choosing consecration, not deconstruction. I’m an ambassador. I’m representing another kingdom. Now, my prayer is that our time together each week activates you to fulfill your God-given purpose and to follow Jesus wholeheartedly as you lead within your particular sphere of influence.
• I am so excited because today we’ve got a really, really incredible episode. My friend Jackie Hill Perry is joining us now. She’s an author, a Bible teacher, a hip-hop artist, a podcaster, a wife, and a mother. And today’s episode just contains so much wisdom. You’re not going to want to listen to this on double speed. In fact, you’re going to half the speed because there is so many truth bombs in this episode.
• Let’s dive in together. Okay, my friend. I feel like I have not seen you cuz I haven’t for well at least a year. And two years. I think it was passion. I think I saw your passion last like 2024. You came in and said hi. Um and then but I I did watch you online because we were at opposite passions this year and um what a powerful word on hope.
• Girl, you you you stirred my own faith in that talk. Praise God. That was that was a that was it was a it was a a heavier it was a costly word. I think that’s the best way. You could tell. I mean, there was such an anointing and and you could feel the weight of that on you. And um I have Okay, so tell me, I haven’t seen you for like a year and now everyone’s just dropping in.
• you saw all my excitement and it’s like I have to let me tell everyone just a little bit that of course you all know Jackie but um I we have actually known each other for 10 years because when I first started Propel believe it or not in 2015 um I started in 2014 but 2015 you came to a Propel event 2016 um you were at a whole lot of uh Propel events with me and um I just I I love it.
• I mean, back then I was just so uh captivated with the anointing of God on your life, your passion for Jesus. Obviously, um your gift and talent, but it was our mutual friend Lisa Harper who called me and she had been doing some stuff with you and she’s like, “Christine, you have got I think although we’re we’re different in so many ways, there’s a kindred spirit in terms of just unadulterated passion for the Lord and 100% sold out for Jesus.
• ” Yeah. And it was Harper who I didn’t know if you hired her as a PR agent or whatever, but I have never in all my life, she had never called me about anybody. So, um I think that’s where it all kind of started. Yeah, it was cuz we were doing me and Lisa were doing Lifeway stuff together and then I remember me and you connected in Chicago. Yeah, you for something.